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		<title>By: TNT: review of the graphical interface</title>
		<link>http://blindscientist.genedrift.org/2008/01/30/tnt-a-comprehensive-review/comment-page-2/#comment-1341</link>
		<dc:creator>TNT: review of the graphical interface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: another review is available here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paulo Nuin</title>
		<link>http://blindscientist.genedrift.org/2008/01/30/tnt-a-comprehensive-review/comment-page-2/#comment-1257</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulo Nuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
Indeed the Linux help is pretty poor, maybe because they devoted more effort to the Windows version with the GUI. It is quite difficult to understand what exactly can be done in Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
Indeed the Linux help is pretty poor, maybe because they devoted more effort to the Windows version with the GUI. It is quite difficult to understand what exactly can be done in Linux.</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco Collantes</title>
		<link>http://blindscientist.genedrift.org/2008/01/30/tnt-a-comprehensive-review/comment-page-2/#comment-1256</link>
		<dc:creator>Francisco Collantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
I know you cannot do it. I&#039;m agree you that improving help is very necessary, at least for linux&#039;s ursers. Also it&#039;d be better if there were a manual (any kind of doc) with all commands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
I know you cannot do it. I&#8217;m agree you that improving help is very necessary, at least for linux&#8217;s ursers. Also it&#8217;d be better if there were a manual (any kind of doc) with all commands.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulo Nuin</title>
		<link>http://blindscientist.genedrift.org/2008/01/30/tnt-a-comprehensive-review/comment-page-2/#comment-1255</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulo Nuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Francisco

I just did a review, I am not a developer of TNT so I can&#039;t change it. It would be good to improve TNT&#039;s help but there is little I can do.

Paulo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Francisco</p>
<p>I just did a review, I am not a developer of TNT so I can&#8217;t change it. It would be good to improve TNT&#8217;s help but there is little I can do.</p>
<p>Paulo</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco Collantes</title>
		<link>http://blindscientist.genedrift.org/2008/01/30/tnt-a-comprehensive-review/comment-page-2/#comment-1254</link>
		<dc:creator>Francisco Collantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Paulo. I was so easy. I think I&#039;d be a good idea to add your words in the includel html file in the package:

&quot;unzip the package into a new directory and just run: ./tnt&quot;

Now I&#039;m going to start to &quot;play&quot; with the software.

Thanks again,
Paco</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Paulo. I was so easy. I think I&#8217;d be a good idea to add your words in the includel html file in the package:</p>
<p>&#8220;unzip the package into a new directory and just run: ./tnt&#8221;</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m going to start to &#8220;play&#8221; with the software.</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />
Paco</p>
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		<title>By: Paulo Nuin</title>
		<link>http://blindscientist.genedrift.org/2008/01/30/tnt-a-comprehensive-review/comment-page-1/#comment-1250</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulo Nuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Francisco

There is no installation procedure for Linux. The program is pre-compiled, so after you download it (http://www.zmuc.dk/public/phylogeny/tnt/tnt.tar.gz), unzip the package into a new directory and just run 

./tnt

You should see TNT&#039;s prompt then and you are ready to go.
Paulo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Francisco</p>
<p>There is no installation procedure for Linux. The program is pre-compiled, so after you download it (<a href="http://www.zmuc.dk/public/phylogeny/tnt/tnt.tar.gz" rel="nofollow">http://www.zmuc.dk/public/phylogeny/tnt/tnt.tar.gz</a>), unzip the package into a new directory and just run </p>
<p>./tnt</p>
<p>You should see TNT&#8217;s prompt then and you are ready to go.<br />
Paulo</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco Collantes</title>
		<link>http://blindscientist.genedrift.org/2008/01/30/tnt-a-comprehensive-review/comment-page-1/#comment-1249</link>
		<dc:creator>Francisco Collantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could somebody explain how install in linux, please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could somebody explain how install in linux, please?</p>
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		<title>By: Paulo Nuin</title>
		<link>http://blindscientist.genedrift.org/2008/01/30/tnt-a-comprehensive-review/comment-page-1/#comment-1226</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulo Nuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is coming most probably Sunday or early Monday. I have a draft ready, including screen captures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is coming most probably Sunday or early Monday. I have a draft ready, including screen captures.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blindscientist.genedrift.org/2008/01/30/tnt-a-comprehensive-review/comment-page-1/#comment-1225</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 03:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh- hard to argue with that! ;)  Looking forward to the review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh- hard to argue with that! <img src='http://blindscientist.genedrift.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   Looking forward to the review.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulo Nuin</title>
		<link>http://blindscientist.genedrift.org/2008/01/30/tnt-a-comprehensive-review/comment-page-1/#comment-1224</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulo Nuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you. In part. I also believe the large problem will be the most sought in the coming years, but I still think the bulk of the phylogenetic analysis will be done with small sets.

Is TNT having only parsimony a &quot;problem&quot; for its popularity? I think so. Of course the fact that MrBayes only has bayesian is also a &quot;problem&quot;. Eclectic packages are the way to go for users, because most of the time you are not analysing the big problem, but rather a small one and if you have all methods in one place things get easier. I am writing an interface for a phylogenetic application that uses four command line programs and requires a couple of other applications to allow the user to complete the analysis.

TNT always had its niche and it is the best in it. It comes from a good heritage of programs and algorithms. Hennig86 was one of the best algorithms taking advantage of the limited (comparing to the present time) computer resources.

PAUP, in its eternal beta mode, also has drawbacks, and people that were very confortable using the GUI on a Mac now cannot use it anymore on the new Mac Intels. Phylip is also cryptic to use, the interface lacking user-friendliness.

I am reviewing TNT&#039;s interface, you will read more in the coming days.

As anything in life, except for socks and some ball caps, there is no one-size-fits-all solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you. In part. I also believe the large problem will be the most sought in the coming years, but I still think the bulk of the phylogenetic analysis will be done with small sets.</p>
<p>Is TNT having only parsimony a &#8220;problem&#8221; for its popularity? I think so. Of course the fact that MrBayes only has bayesian is also a &#8220;problem&#8221;. Eclectic packages are the way to go for users, because most of the time you are not analysing the big problem, but rather a small one and if you have all methods in one place things get easier. I am writing an interface for a phylogenetic application that uses four command line programs and requires a couple of other applications to allow the user to complete the analysis.</p>
<p>TNT always had its niche and it is the best in it. It comes from a good heritage of programs and algorithms. Hennig86 was one of the best algorithms taking advantage of the limited (comparing to the present time) computer resources.</p>
<p>PAUP, in its eternal beta mode, also has drawbacks, and people that were very confortable using the GUI on a Mac now cannot use it anymore on the new Mac Intels. Phylip is also cryptic to use, the interface lacking user-friendliness.</p>
<p>I am reviewing TNT&#8217;s interface, you will read more in the coming days.</p>
<p>As anything in life, except for socks and some ball caps, there is no one-size-fits-all solution.</p>
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